Back when I didn't know who Devin was, there was Strapping Young Lad. These guys were as hard as anything I had ever heard and their live shows were LEGENDARY. I still remember going to see them with Dan in NorCal.

Saw these guys at the Sounds of the Underground tour with Dan. Very good... the singer says a lot of messed up stuff but you can't deny the quality of the music.

These guys are nuts! The singer even rocks the skullet. It is awesome.